Trying to restore Kodachromes taken 50 years ago

[CarlosMFreaza]

One of my sisters found a box containing some K 14 35mm Kodachrome
slides taken by my father between 1958 and 1962, the box also
contained some E-6 35mm Ektachrome slides taken by me when I was 16
and 17 years old (1972/73). We believed all these old slides were lost
and, in fact, most of them are lost, but these few slides in the
little box have some of the magic from the old times, when, as
fascinated kids and teenagers, watched the projected images .

The slides show very faded colors, dust, scratches and some units have
fungus and humidity stains too, anyway four or five Kodachromes look
pretty good, I don't know the cause for the difference, they are from
the same time, same lab an were kept in the same box.

I'm scanning them using the infrared cleaning option, Vuescan works
fine for the purpose, at least a lot better than the Epson Digital ICE
software. Vuescan eliminates most of the scratches and dust; BTW, it
can not solve problems if the image was destroyed in the emulsion
itself.

The scanning software options to restore faded colors and chromatic
losses hardly work to improve the image quality for these cases, most
of the slides need very much work with levels and curves; I'm
having some acceptable results for a few slides but others are beyond
my limited skills and knowledge, I think I'll convert them into Blank
and White images.

Carlos

[Kenneth Frazier]

Post by CarlosMFreaza
some E-6 35mm Ektachrome slides taken by me when I was 16
and 17 years old (1972/73). We believed all these old slides were lost
and, in fact, most of them are lost,

Carlos,

After my father's death several years ago, I ended up the caretaker of several thousand E-6 slides he had taken over the years, and to my dismay nearly all of them had faded beyond recovery.

I hope you are able to recover at least some of yours.

Ken


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[CarlosMFreaza]

Thank you Ken for the wishes, I think I could save some of them.
Carlos

Post by Kenneth Frazier

Post by CarlosMFreaza
some E-6 35mm Ektachrome slides taken by me when I was 16
and 17 years old (1972/73). We believed all these old slides were lost
and, in fact, most of them are lost,

Carlos,
After my father's death several years ago, I ended up the caretaker of several thousand E-6 slides he had taken over the years, and to my dismay nearly all of them had faded beyond recovery.
I hope you are able to recover at least some of yours.
Ken
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Ken Frazier
http://kennybod.wordpress.com
203-527-5823 Home
203-841-9630 Cell and text
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[John Wild]

Carlos,

I have 'played' about with outdated Kodacolor II negative film and
Ektachrome 100 Pro - both recently exposed and processed with unknown
storage history - which have a blue cast but other colours have become
distorted too.

I have used Digital ROC on my Minolta Dimage Multiscan Pro scanner (colour
improvement) which with works with faded colours but not with a strong
colour cast like these images. I also use ICE for dust removal.

People critisise the Minolta software and recommend Viewscan or Silverfast
but I have never really got on with Viewscan - I do not find it to have
subtle enough control. Silverfast do not have a driver for my scanner.

I have found that I can quickly improve the colours in Photoshop by
adjusting overall Brightness & Contrast, Colour Balance, individual RGB
Curves, then Hue & Saturation and Levels and then if required, a bit more
Brightness & Contrast.

It does not take that long, and after a while it is easier to judge which
way to go.

There is also the fact that we are now used to bright saturated colours and
old film did not have that vibrance so it will be very difficult to bring
those colours up to 21st century expectations.

Kodachrome is different and should last well. I have some from the 60's
taken on my Instamatic 100 and the colours are still very realistic. I
always thought that Kodachrome was expected to last almost forever.

John

Post by CarlosMFreaza
One of my sisters found a box containing some K 14 35mm Kodachrome
slides taken by my father between 1958 and 1962, the box also
contained some E-6 35mm Ektachrome slides taken by me when I was 16
and 17 years old (1972/73). We believed all these old slides were lost
and, in fact, most of them are lost, but these few slides in the
little box have some of the magic from the old times, when, as
fascinated kids and teenagers, watched the projected images .
The slides show very faded colors, dust, scratches and some units have
fungus and humidity stains too, anyway four or five Kodachromes look
pretty good, I don't know the cause for the difference, they are from
the same time, same lab an were kept in the same box.
I'm scanning them using the infrared cleaning option, Vuescan works
fine for the purpose, at least a lot better than the Epson Digital ICE
software. Vuescan eliminates most of the scratches and dust; BTW, it
can not solve problems if the image was destroyed in the emulsion
itself.
The scanning software options to restore faded colors and chromatic
losses hardly work to improve the image quality for these cases, most
of the slides need very much work with levels and curves; I'm
having some acceptable results for a few slides but others are beyond
my limited skills and knowledge, I think I'll convert them into Blank
and White images.
Carlos
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[John Wild]

I apologise; I forgot that the C41 film I corrected was actually Agfacolor
dated 2001 and not from my cartridges of Kodacolor II - which are 1979 and
had nothing except a very faint image of the numbering on the backing paper
- probably heat or X-ray fogged.

John

Post by Kenneth Frazier
Carlos,
I have 'played' about with outdated Kodacolor II negative film and
Ektachrome 100 Pro - both recently exposed and processed with unknown
storage history - which have a blue cast but other colours have become
distorted too.
I have used Digital ROC on my Minolta Dimage Multiscan Pro scanner (colour
improvement) which with works with faded colours but not with a strong
colour cast like these images. I also use ICE for dust removal.
People critisise the Minolta software and recommend Viewscan or Silverfast
but I have never really got on with Viewscan - I do not find it to have
subtle enough control. Silverfast do not have a driver for my scanner.
I have found that I can quickly improve the colours in Photoshop by
adjusting overall Brightness & Contrast, Colour Balance, individual RGB
Curves, then Hue & Saturation and Levels and then if required, a bit more
Brightness & Contrast.
It does not take that long, and after a while it is easier to judge which
way to go.
There is also the fact that we are now used to bright saturated colours and
old film did not have that vibrance so it will be very difficult to bring
those colours up to 21st century expectations.
Kodachrome is different and should last well. I have some from the 60's
taken on my Instamatic 100 and the colours are still very realistic. I
always thought that Kodachrome was expected to last almost forever.
John

Post by CarlosMFreaza
One of my sisters found a box containing some K 14 35mm Kodachrome
slides taken by my father between 1958 and 1962, the box also
contained some E-6 35mm Ektachrome slides taken by me when I was 16
and 17 years old (1972/73). We believed all these old slides were lost
and, in fact, most of them are lost, but these few slides in the
little box have some of the magic from the old times, when, as
fascinated kids and teenagers, watched the projected images .
The slides show very faded colors, dust, scratches and some units have
fungus and humidity stains too, anyway four or five Kodachromes look
pretty good, I don't know the cause for the difference, they are from
the same time, same lab an were kept in the same box.
I'm scanning them using the infrared cleaning option, Vuescan works
fine for the purpose, at least a lot better than the Epson Digital ICE
software. Vuescan eliminates most of the scratches and dust; BTW, it
can not solve problems if the image was destroyed in the emulsion
itself.
The scanning software options to restore faded colors and chromatic
losses hardly work to improve the image quality for these cases, most
of the slides need very much work with levels and curves; I'm
having some acceptable results for a few slides but others are beyond
my limited skills and knowledge, I think I'll convert them into Blank
and White images.
Carlos
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[CarlosMFreaza]

Hi John:
I think that whilst there are some things in common
between an outdated film developed with a fresh chemical process and
an old processed film; the main difference could be that the old
processed film suffers the emulsion age and the chemical process age
too. I think it's easier to correct the colors for an outdated film
processed with fresh chemicals than to correct an old film with a
chemical process that aged with the film. There are situations where
even some PS tools don't work fine, as it's explained in some scanning
tutorials ; sometimes Color Balance and Hue &saturation don't work
fine initially and you need to work with levels and curves only; and
there are some severe situations where you can't recover the colors
because there is no enough info in the slide to recover them; if you
have a frame with a color cast and you have also distorted colors, at
least you have a color cast to eliminate and a distorted color to
change it, but there also are old slides in bad condition without
color cast to eliminate and without distorted colors to correct...
In general, the Kodacromes in my little box show better condition than
the "newer" Ektachromes, however the Kodacromes also need a
restoration work except for five units, after they passed the
infrared cleaning process. BTW, I tried the Digital ICE and the
Vuescan Infrared cleaning (both are infrared), Digital ICE looks
almost a joke compared with the Vuescan version, perhaps I'm missing
some option for Digital ICE..
I'm busy now, but I hope to upload some results for the week-end.
Thanks for your answer.

Carlos

Post by Kenneth Frazier
Carlos,
I have 'played' about with outdated Kodacolor II negative film and
Ektachrome 100 Pro - both recently exposed and processed with unknown
storage history - which have a blue cast but other colours have become
distorted too.
I have used Digital ROC on my Minolta Dimage Multiscan Pro scanner (colour
improvement) which with works with faded colours but not with a strong
colour cast like these images. I also use ICE for dust removal.
People critisise the Minolta software and recommend Viewscan or Silverfast
but I have never really got on with Viewscan - I do not find it to have
subtle enough control. Silverfast do not have a driver for my scanner.
I have found that I can quickly improve the colours in Photoshop by
adjusting overall Brightness & Contrast, Colour Balance, individual RGB
Curves, then Hue & Saturation and Levels and then if required, a bit more
Brightness & Contrast.
It does not take that long, and after a while it is easier to judge which
way to go.
There is also the fact that we are now used to bright saturated colours and
old film did not have that vibrance so it will be very difficult to bring
those colours up to 21st century expectations.
Kodachrome is different and should last well. I have some from the 60's
taken on my Instamatic 100 and the colours are still very realistic. I
always thought that Kodachrome was expected to last almost forever.
John

Post by CarlosMFreaza
One of my sisters found a box containing some K 14 35mm Kodachrome
slides taken by my father between 1958 and 1962, the box also
contained some E-6 35mm Ektachrome slides taken by me when I was 16
and 17 years old (1972/73). We believed all these old slides were lost
and, in fact, most of them are lost, but these few slides in the
little box have some of the magic from the old times, when, as
fascinated kids and teenagers, watched the projected images .
The slides show very faded colors, dust, scratches and some units have
fungus and humidity stains too, anyway four or five Kodachromes look
pretty good, I don't know the cause for the difference, they are from
the same time, same lab an were kept in the same box.
I'm scanning them using the infrared cleaning option, Vuescan works
fine for the purpose, at least a lot better than the Epson Digital ICE
software. Vuescan eliminates most of the scratches and dust; BTW, it
can not solve problems if the image was destroyed in the emulsion
itself.
The scanning software options to restore faded colors and chromatic
losses hardly work to improve the image quality for these cases, most
of the slides need very much work with levels and curves; I'm
having some acceptable results for a few slides but others are beyond
my limited skills and knowledge, I think I'll convert them into Blank
and White images.
Carlos
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[Hauke Fath]

Post by CarlosMFreaza
I tried the Digital ICE and the
Vuescan Infrared cleaning (both are infrared), Digital ICE looks
almost a joke compared with the Vuescan version, perhaps I'm missing
some option for Digital ICE..

I am mildly puzzled - for all I know, the infrared-based dust correction
algorithms are not supposed to work with Kodachrome, since its silver layer
(just like traditional b/w film) is not transparent in infrared, unlike the
dyes of colour slides.

hauke


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[CarlosMFreaza]

Post by Hauke Fath
...
I am mildly puzzled - for all I know, the infrared-based dust correction
algorithms are not supposed to work with Kodachrome, since its silver layer
(just like traditional b/w film) is not transparent in infrared, unlike the
dyes of colour slides.

Hauke:
Kodachrome slides make more difficult IR cleaning due to
some dyes tending to block the IR light, however they are not like the
B&W negs that block the IR light completely. It must be the reason
Digital ICE almost does not work on "my" Kodachromes as I wrote
previously; however Vuescan has three IR cleaning modes: Light, Medium
and Heavy, I'm using the Heavy mode, it causes some image softening
but it works pretty well;It is not perfect BTW, it does not remove
100% of scratrches and spots, I'd say a 70 to 75%. Vuescan does two
passes, the first time it scans the image, the second time it creates
an almost white and bright layer on the scanned image where you see
projected the scratches and spots it will remove from the image, when
the final result appears, it looks free regarding those spots and
scratches. i.e., one of the Kodachromes has a car with some very
visible spots, Digital ICE only reduced their size slightly, but
Vuescan eliminated them completely, the price is image softening, but
the results-cost relationship is very good; anyway Vuescan IR leaves
some spots in the sky specially.

Carlos

[Hauke Fath]

Post by CarlosMFreaza
Kodachrome slides make more difficult IR cleaning due to
some dyes tending to block the IR light, however they are not like the
B&W negs that block the IR light completely.

Kodachome was never my film of choice, both because of the price tag,
as Jan has already mentioned, and what I found a peculiar rendition of
colours. Two Kodachrome 50 films were given to me over time: The first
is one of my first slide films, used in an Agfa Autostar 126 camera in
the early seventies, and the second one an 135 film taken around 1980.

I will make test scans with Vuescan and my Nikon LS30 when I find the
time, and see what the IR channel has.

hauke

[CarlosMFreaza]

OK, these are the first six samples, they were taken by my father
between 1958 and 1962 using a Voss Diax IIb rangefinder camera with a
Xenon Schneider 2/50 (coated), except for the last one, taken with a
WA lens Xenagon Schneider 3,5/35. My father sent these Kodachromes to
Kodak Argentina in Buenos Aires city for processing, however they sent
the Kodachromes to Kodak USA (according some versions to a giant
laboratory that Kodak had in the Panama channel zone, according other
versions, to Rochester directly); he received the processed slides
with their Kodak cardboard frames three months later.

Please, keep in mind these are color shots taken and processed about
55 years ago:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/sets/72157646242821302/


Carlos

PS: I changed some privacy settings for these six images, but I think
you'll see them without problems.

Post by CarlosMFreaza
One of my sisters found a box containing some K 14 35mm Kodachrome
slides taken by my father between 1958 and 1962, the box also
contained some E-6 35mm Ektachrome slides taken by me when I was 16
and 17 years old (1972/73). We believed all these old slides were lost
and, in fact, most of them are lost, but these few slides in the
little box have some of the magic from the old times, when, as
fascinated kids and teenagers, watched the projected images .
The slides show very faded colors, dust, scratches and some units have
fungus and humidity stains too, anyway four or five Kodachromes look
pretty good, I don't know the cause for the difference, they are from
the same time, same lab an were kept in the same box.
I'm scanning them using the infrared cleaning option, Vuescan works
fine for the purpose, at least a lot better than the Epson Digital ICE
software. Vuescan eliminates most of the scratches and dust; BTW, it
can not solve problems if the image was destroyed in the emulsion
itself.
The scanning software options to restore faded colors and chromatic
losses hardly work to improve the image quality for these cases, most
of the slides need very much work with levels and curves; I'm
having some acceptable results for a few slides but others are beyond
my limited skills and knowledge, I think I'll convert them into Blank
and White images.
Carlos

["Evan Dong" (Redacted sender "[e-mail]" for DMARC)]

On Thursday, August 7, 2014 8:21 AM, CarlosMFreaza <***@gmail.com> wrote:



OK, these are the first six samples, they were taken by my father
between 1958 and 1962 using a Voss Diax IIb rangefinder camera with a
Xenon Schneider 2/50 (coated), except for the last one, taken with a
WA lens Xenagon Schneider 3,5/35. My father sent these Kodachromes to
Kodak Argentina in Buenos Aires city for processing, however they sent
the Kodachromes to Kodak USA (according some versions to a giant
laboratory that Kodak had in the Panama channel zone, according other
versions, to Rochester directly); he received the processed slides
with their Kodak cardboard frames three months later.

Please, keep in mind these are color shots taken and processed about
55 years ago:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/sets/72157646242821302/


Carlos

PS: I changed some privacy settings for these six images, but I think
you'll see them without problems.

Post by CarlosMFreaza
One of my sisters found a box containing some K 14 35mm Kodachrome
slides taken by my father between 1958 and 1962, the box also
contained some E-6 35mm Ektachrome slides taken by me when I was 16
and 17 years old (1972/73). We believed all these old slides were lost
and, in fact, most of them are lost, but these few slides in the
little box have some of the magic from the old times, when, as
fascinated kids and teenagers,  watched  the projected images .
The slides show very faded colors, dust, scratches and some units have
fungus and humidity stains too, anyway four or five Kodachromes look
pretty good, I don't know the cause for the difference, they are from
the same time, same lab an were kept in the same box.
I'm scanning them using the infrared cleaning option, Vuescan works
fine for the purpose, at least a lot better than the Epson Digital ICE
software. Vuescan eliminates most of the scratches and dust; BTW, it
can not solve problems if the image was destroyed in the emulsion
itself.
The scanning software options to restore faded colors and chromatic
losses hardly work to improve the image quality for these cases, most
of the slides need very much  work  with levels and curves; I'm
having some acceptable results for a few slides but others are beyond
my limited skills and knowledge, I think I'll convert them into Blank
and White images.
Carlos

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["Evan Dong" (Redacted sender "[e-mail]" for DMARC)]

Carlos,

If these Kodachrome images are the ones you scan in, then I see that you did a good job considering its age. They all look veryu good,

They have the same similar look as my uncle's imaghes from the West Indies during the late 1950s into late 1960s.

He scan in his image using a Canon FS4000US film scanner. Time consuming, but preserving his life legacy.

Evan



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On Thursday, August 7, 2014 8:21 AM, CarlosMFreaza <***@gmail.com> wrote:



OK, these are the first six samples, they were taken by my father
between 1958 and 1962 using a Voss Diax IIb rangefinder camera with a
Xenon Schneider 2/50 (coated), except for the last one, taken with a
WA lens Xenagon Schneider 3,5/35. My father sent these Kodachromes to
Kodak Argentina in Buenos Aires city for processing, however they sent
the Kodachromes to Kodak USA (according some versions to a giant
laboratory that Kodak had in the Panama channel zone, according other
versions, to Rochester directly); he received the processed slides
with their Kodak cardboard frames three months later.

Please, keep in mind these are color shots taken and processed about
55 years ago:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/sets/72157646242821302/


Carlos

PS: I changed some privacy settings for these six images, but I think
you'll see them without problems.

Post by CarlosMFreaza
One of my sisters found a box containing some K 14 35mm Kodachrome
slides taken by my father between 1958 and 1962, the box also
contained some E-6 35mm Ektachrome slides taken by me when I was 16
and 17 years old (1972/73). We believed all these old slides were lost
and, in fact, most of them are lost, but these few slides in the
little box have some of the magic from the old times, when, as
fascinated kids and teenagers,  watched  the projected images .
The slides show very faded colors, dust, scratches and some units have
fungus and humidity stains too, anyway four or five Kodachromes look
pretty good, I don't know the cause for the difference, they are from
the same time, same lab an were kept in the same box.
I'm scanning them using the infrared cleaning option, Vuescan works
fine for the purpose, at least a lot better than the Epson Digital ICE
software. Vuescan eliminates most of the scratches and dust; BTW, it
can not solve problems if the image was destroyed in the emulsion
itself.
The scanning software options to restore faded colors and chromatic
losses hardly work to improve the image quality for these cases, most
of the slides need very much  work  with levels and curves; I'm
having some acceptable results for a few slides but others are beyond
my limited skills and knowledge, I think I'll convert them into Blank
and White images.
Carlos

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[CarlosMFreaza]

Thank you Evan for the interest and comment. Yes, I scanned them
yesterday, Kodachromes have a distinctive look indeed. I used an Epson
v700 scanner.

Carlos

Post by Kenneth Frazier
Carlos,
If these Kodachrome images are the ones you scan in, then I see that you did
a good job considering its age. They all look veryu good,
They have the same similar look as my uncle's imaghes from the West Indies
during the late 1950s into late 1960s.
He scan in his image using a Canon FS4000US film scanner. Time consuming,
but preserving his life legacy.
Evan
OK, these are the first six samples, they were taken by my father
between 1958 and 1962 using a Voss Diax IIb rangefinder camera with a
Xenon Schneider 2/50 (coated), except for the last one, taken with a
WA lens Xenagon Schneider 3,5/35. My father sent these Kodachromes to
Kodak Argentina in Buenos Aires city for processing, however they sent
the Kodachromes to Kodak USA (according some versions to a giant
laboratory that Kodak had in the Panama channel zone, according other
versions, to Rochester directly); he received the processed slides
with their Kodak cardboard frames three months later.
Please, keep in mind these are color shots taken and processed about
https://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/sets/72157646242821302/
Carlos
PS: I changed some privacy settings for these six images, but I think
you'll see them without problems.

Post by CarlosMFreaza
One of my sisters found a box containing some K 14 35mm Kodachrome
slides taken by my father between 1958 and 1962, the box also
contained some E-6 35mm Ektachrome slides taken by me when I was 16
and 17 years old (1972/73). We believed all these old slides were lost
and, in fact, most of them are lost, but these few slides in the
little box have some of the magic from the old times, when, as
fascinated kids and teenagers, watched the projected images .
The slides show very faded colors, dust, scratches and some units have
fungus and humidity stains too, anyway four or five Kodachromes look
pretty good, I don't know the cause for the difference, they are from
the same time, same lab an were kept in the same box.
I'm scanning them using the infrared cleaning option, Vuescan works
fine for the purpose, at least a lot better than the Epson Digital ICE
software. Vuescan eliminates most of the scratches and dust; BTW, it
can not solve problems if the image was destroyed in the emulsion
itself.
The scanning software options to restore faded colors and chromatic
losses hardly work to improve the image quality for these cases, most
of the slides need very much work with levels and curves; I'm
having some acceptable results for a few slides but others are beyond
my limited skills and knowledge, I think I'll convert them into Blank
and White images.
Carlos

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Post by CarlosMFreaza
Thank you Evan for the interest and comment. Yes, I scanned them
yesterday, Kodachromes have a distinctive look indeed. I used an Epson
v700 scanner.
Carlos

This is not a specific response to the post but what ever happened to
the "Applied Science Fiction" color restoration company, purchased I
think, by Adobe or Kodak, forgot which?

There was a trial version, that left a "watermark" but it did a
wonderful job when I tried it.

Is that process included in any of the editors on the market now?

I have Elements 11 and when I clicked on a known white spot (per
instructions) nothing happened. I think because the white spot, a
shirt, was already white. The non-white parts of the image had, and
still have, a color cast.

When I went to the fine tuning section slight changes to the settings
made changes beyond what I wanted. Guess it takes a cool hand to do that.

DAW

[Ferdi Stutterheim]

Carlos,

An interesting experiment.

I normally do not post links to images. In October 2010, a few months before the end of processing, I exposed the last roll of Kodachrome 25 that I had stored for many years and had it processed at Dwayne's. 'For most of the time' the film was stored in the fridge. The colours are, well, make your own judgement:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/fwstutterheim/sets/72157625204565072/

Ferdi,
Drachten, The Netherlands.

Post by CarlosMFreaza
OK, these are the first six samples, they were taken by my father
between 1958 and 1962 using a Voss Diax IIb rangefinder camera with a
Xenon Schneider 2/50 (coated), except for the last one, taken with a
WA lens Xenagon Schneider 3,5/35. My father sent these Kodachromes to
Kodak Argentina in Buenos Aires city for processing, however they sent
the Kodachromes to Kodak USA (according some versions to a giant
laboratory that Kodak had in the Panama channel zone, according other
versions, to Rochester directly); he received the processed slides
with their Kodak cardboard frames three months later.
Please, keep in mind these are color shots taken and processed about
https://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/sets/72157646242821302/

[Thor Legvold]

Interesting. The last two frames look ok as far as colors go, although all are very low contrast. The others seem to have a slight cast to the colors.

My Kodachrome from the 80’s and 90’s isn’t especially old, but still looks great. As much as I liked and used Velvia when I came out, I still really like the “natural” contrast and colors of Kodachrome. I for one was very sad to see it retired from the market.

Thor

Post by Kenneth Frazier
Carlos,
An interesting experiment.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/fwstutterheim/sets/72157625204565072/
Ferdi,
Drachten, The Netherlands.

Post by CarlosMFreaza
OK, these are the first six samples, they were taken by my father
between 1958 and 1962 using a Voss Diax IIb rangefinder camera with a
Xenon Schneider 2/50 (coated), except for the last one, taken with a
WA lens Xenagon Schneider 3,5/35. My father sent these Kodachromes to
Kodak Argentina in Buenos Aires city for processing, however they sent
the Kodachromes to Kodak USA (according some versions to a giant
laboratory that Kodak had in the Panama channel zone, according other
versions, to Rochester directly); he received the processed slides
with their Kodak cardboard frames three months later.
Please, keep in mind these are color shots taken and processed about
https://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/sets/72157646242821302/

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Post by CarlosMFreaza
OK, these are the first six samples, they were taken by my father
between 1958 and 1962 using a Voss Diax IIb rangefinder camera with a
Xenon Schneider 2/50 (coated), except for the last one, taken with a
WA lens Xenagon Schneider 3,5/35. My father sent these Kodachromes to
Kodak Argentina in Buenos Aires city for processing, however they sent
the Kodachromes to Kodak USA (according some versions to a giant
laboratory that Kodak had in the Panama channel zone, according other
versions, to Rochester directly); he received the processed slides
with their Kodak cardboard frames three months later.
Please, keep in mind these are color shots taken and processed about
https://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/sets/72157646242821302/
Carlos
PS: I changed some privacy settings for these six images, but I think
you'll see them without problems.

Hello Carlos,
A few months back I had to scan prints of my father which died in 76. So
they where snaps made and printed without conservation in mind in the
seventies.
Of course they have faded. So I scanned them and used the "restoration"
process in Photoshop elements.
It ask for you to designate a white point and/or a black and did a
pretty good job at restoring them automatically....
So you may want to test it for your images. (my father had unusual very
light blue eyes. They returned to the shade of blue I remembered... so I
was happy)

[CarlosMFreaza]

... Hello Carlos,
A few months back I had to scan prints of my father which died in 76. So
they where snaps made and printed without conservation in mind in the
seventies.
Of course they have faded. So I scanned them and used the "restoration"
process in Photoshop elements.
It ask for you to designate a white point and/or a black and did a pretty
good job at restoring them automatically....
So you may want to test it for your images. (my father had unusual very
light blue eyes. They returned to the shade of blue I remembered... so I was
happy)...

Hello Georges:
I did not find the option to restore images
automatically in PS Elements 9. Vuescan has options to restore
chromatic losses and faded colors, but they were not enough for these
slides, they work better for prints. I worked on each slide using
level and curves for each color channel mainly; I downloaded as
plug-in, from somewhere in the web, a curves tool for PSE, it works
fine.

Carlos

[Georges Giralt]

Hello Carlos,
Actually the PS Elements was, IIRC version 4 or 5. The function was
available in "normal" mode, not advanced mode.
I can't tell you exactly where because the machine running Windows
software with this version of PSE installed had died. And I did not plan
to get another one nor repair it... (as an IT Unix engineer, I run Linux
on every computer of the house).
So try if you can switch to assisted mode and find if the restoration
option is here or not.

Post by CarlosMFreaza

... Hello Carlos,
A few months back I had to scan prints of my father which died in 76. So
they where snaps made and printed without conservation in mind in the
seventies.
Of course they have faded. So I scanned them and used the "restoration"
process in Photoshop elements.
It ask for you to designate a white point and/or a black and did a pretty
good job at restoring them automatically....
So you may want to test it for your images. (my father had unusual very
light blue eyes. They returned to the shade of blue I remembered... so I was
happy)...

I did not find the option to restore images
automatically in PS Elements 9. Vuescan has options to restore
chromatic losses and faded colors, but they were not enough for these
slides, they work better for prints. I worked on each slide using
level and curves for each color channel mainly; I downloaded as
plug-in, from somewhere in the web, a curves tool for PSE, it works
fine.
Carlos
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[Chris Burck]

Wonderful images, Carlos. Are you one of the two "brothers"? And in the
first image, is your father out of the frame (taking the shoot), or is he
in the frame (i.e. tripod & self timer)?

Post by Georges Giralt
Hello Carlos,
Actually the PS Elements was, IIRC version 4 or 5. The function was
available in "normal" mode, not advanced mode.
I can't tell you exactly where because the machine running Windows
software with this version of PSE installed had died. And I did not plan to
get another one nor repair it... (as an IT Unix engineer, I run Linux on
every computer of the house).
So try if you can switch to assisted mode and find if the restoration
option is here or not.

Post by CarlosMFreaza

... Hello Carlos,
A few months back I had to scan prints of my father which died in 76. So
they where snaps made and printed without conservation in mind in the
seventies.
Of course they have faded. So I scanned them and used the "restoration"
process in Photoshop elements.
It ask for you to designate a white point and/or a black and did a pretty
good job at restoring them automatically....
So you may want to test it for your images. (my father had unusual very
light blue eyes. They returned to the shade of blue I remembered... so I was
happy)...

I did not find the option to restore images
automatically in PS Elements 9. Vuescan has options to restore
chromatic losses and faded colors, but they were not enough for these
slides, they work better for prints. I worked on each slide using
level and curves for each color channel mainly; I downloaded as
plug-in, from somewhere in the web, a curves tool for PSE, it works
fine.
Carlos
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Yes Chris, I'm the oldest one, on the right. My father is out of the
frame, taking the shot in the first image. Thank you for the comment.

Carlos

Post by Chris Burck
Wonderful images, Carlos. Are you one of the two "brothers"? And in the
first image, is your father out of the frame (taking the shoot), or is he in
the frame (i.e. tripod & self timer)?

Post by Georges Giralt
Hello Carlos,
Actually the PS Elements was, IIRC version 4 or 5. The function was
available in "normal" mode, not advanced mode.
I can't tell you exactly where because the machine running Windows
software with this version of PSE installed had died. And I did not plan to
get another one nor repair it... (as an IT Unix engineer, I run Linux on
every computer of the house).
So try if you can switch to assisted mode and find if the restoration
option is here or not.

Post by CarlosMFreaza

... Hello Carlos,
A few months back I had to scan prints of my father which died in 76. So
they where snaps made and printed without conservation in mind in the
seventies.
Of course they have faded. So I scanned them and used the "restoration"
process in Photoshop elements.
It ask for you to designate a white point and/or a black and did a pretty
good job at restoring them automatically....
So you may want to test it for your images. (my father had unusual very
light blue eyes. They returned to the shade of blue I remembered... so I was
happy)...

I did not find the option to restore images
automatically in PS Elements 9. Vuescan has options to restore
chromatic losses and faded colors, but they were not enough for these
slides, they work better for prints. I worked on each slide using
level and curves for each color channel mainly; I downloaded as
plug-in, from somewhere in the web, a curves tool for PSE, it works
fine.
Carlos
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Good composition, interesting images Ferdi. Colors look a bit cold in my monitor considering they are Kodachrome, if this is the case, perhaps the film age had to do in spite of the recent process,, but they look right anyway.
Carlos

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Carlos,

An interesting experiment.

I normally do not post links to images. In October 2010, a few months before the end of processing, I exposed the last roll of Kodachrome 25 that I had stored for many years and had it processed at Dwayne's. 'For most of the time' the film was stored in the fridge. The colours are, well, make your own judgement:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/fwstutterheim/sets/72157625204565072/

Ferdi,
Drachten, The Netherlands.

Post by CarlosMFreaza
OK, these are the first six samples, they were taken by my father
between 1958 and 1962 using a Voss Diax IIb rangefinder camera with a
Xenon Schneider 2/50 (coated), except for the last one, taken with a
WA lens Xenagon Schneider 3,5/35. My father sent these Kodachromes to
Kodak Argentina in Buenos Aires city for processing, however they sent
the Kodachromes to Kodak USA (according some versions to a giant
laboratory that Kodak had in the Panama channel zone, according other
versions, to Rochester directly); he received the processed slides
with their Kodak cardboard frames three months later.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/itarfoto/sets/72157646242821302/

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Post by CarlosMFreaza
Thank you Evan for the interest and comment. Yes, I scanned them
yesterday, Kodachromes have a distinctive look indeed. I used an Epson
v700 scanner.
Carlos

Two topics - It's strange but at my age some things I think about,
trips, pictures taken, etc. don't seem like 50 years ago but I can
remember (and have) pictures and negs from 65-70 years ago. Go figure!

I previously commented on Applied Science Fiction restoration
software. I found Kodak ROC but it doesn't seem to run on Windows
7. I did a trial with it some time back and it was great. I have
had some success with PS Elements, but nothing like the ASF
software. Any similar software can anyone recommend?

DAW