Discussion:
Rolleigrid vs. Maxwell -- initial impressions.
S***@aol.com
2006-06-06 19:47:43 UTC
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Having disturbed the list with my earlier email in search of a Rolleigrid, I
thought I should provide an update. I found my old Rolleigrid yesterday and
installed it in my 2.8C. Now, I also have a Maxwell screen in my 3.5E, so,
at last, I am able to compare the two side-by-side.

My initial impressions give the nod to the Rolleigrid. It is not quite as
bright as the Maxwell screen, but it is plenty bright to compose with, all the
way out to the corners. To my surprise, I found it a bit easier to focus the
2.8C with the Rolleigrid, compared to focusing the 3.5E with the Maxwell
screen. I do not mean to speak unkindly of the Maxwell screen -- I have used it
for many years in my 3.5E and think highly of it, and I use a Maxwell screen
in my view camera. But at first glance I do prefer the Rolleigrid.

Sanders McNew
www.mcnew.net
Eric Goldstein
2006-06-06 20:00:13 UTC
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This is why I prefer the beattie screen over the Maxwell. I have used
a rolleigrid on the 2.8 C and agree with you relative to a comparison
with the maxwell, but feel the beattie is an improvement over the
rolleigrid both in terms of brightness and ease of focus. The beattie
snaps into focus for me; the maxwell does not...

Eric Goldstein
Post by S***@aol.com
Having disturbed the list with my earlier email in search of a Rolleigrid, I
thought I should provide an update. I found my old Rolleigrid yesterday and
installed it in my 2.8C. Now, I also have a Maxwell screen in my 3.5E, so,
at last, I am able to compare the two side-by-side.
My initial impressions give the nod to the Rolleigrid. It is not quite as
bright as the Maxwell screen, but it is plenty bright to compose with, all
the way out to the corners. To my surprise, I found it a bit easier to
focus the 2.8C with the Rolleigrid, compared to focusing the 3.5E with the
Maxwell screen. I do not mean to speak unkindly of the Maxwell screen -- I
have used it for many years in my 3.5E and think highly of it, and I use a
Maxwell screen in my view camera. But at first glance I do prefer the
Rolleigrid.
Sanders McNew
www.mcnew.net
c***@gmail.com
2006-06-06 23:34:19 UTC
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interested to hear about some of the earlier screens being 'snappier' to
focus than others. From my limited personal experience and a lot of
web-trawling I'm beginning to get the impression that brightness does not
always equate to ease of focus. I have an FX and its brighter than my 35mm
OM1 but there is no comparison in the snap particularly outside the centre
zone. On the OM there is just a matte surface outside the centre whereas on
the my 'flex' those record grooves don't seem to help a bit. In fact I would
go to say its virtually unfocussable without the prism/split aids.
Chat
Post by Eric Goldstein
This is why I prefer the beattie screen over the Maxwell. I have used
a rolleigrid on the 2.8 C and agree with you relative to a comparison
with the maxwell, but feel the beattie is an improvement over the
rolleigrid both in terms of brightness and ease of focus. The beattie
snaps into focus for me; the maxwell does not...
Eric Goldstein
Post by S***@aol.com
Having disturbed the list with my earlier email in search of a
Rolleigrid, I
Post by S***@aol.com
thought I should provide an update. I found my old Rolleigrid yesterday
and
Post by S***@aol.com
installed it in my 2.8C. Now, I also have a Maxwell screen in my 3.5E,
so,
Post by S***@aol.com
at last, I am able to compare the two side-by-side.
My initial impressions give the nod to the Rolleigrid. It is not quite
as
Post by S***@aol.com
bright as the Maxwell screen, but it is plenty bright to compose with,
all
Post by S***@aol.com
the way out to the corners. To my surprise, I found it a bit easier to
focus the 2.8C with the Rolleigrid, compared to focusing the 3.5E with
the
Post by S***@aol.com
Maxwell screen. I do not mean to speak unkindly of the Maxwell screen
-- I
Post by S***@aol.com
have used it for many years in my 3.5E and think highly of it, and I use
a
Post by S***@aol.com
Maxwell screen in my view camera. But at first glance I do prefer the
Rolleigrid.
Sanders McNew
www.mcnew.net
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dnygr
2006-06-06 20:04:09 UTC
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Eric, You just answered a question I wrote Sanders about.

Bettie sound good. My problem is that the split screen in poor light is darn difficult. I use the concentric lines and they work, but are a little dull on the screen that came with the camera.

Great camera. I use the wide TLR. Have not converted to digital and am in no rush to yet. I can do everything in the darkroom that digital offers and it looks better to me. Just an opinion, though.

Best and thanks for the info.

Doug Nygren


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From: "Eric Goldstein" <***@gmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 16:00:13 -0400
Post by Eric Goldstein
This is why I prefer the beattie screen over the Maxwell. I have used
a rolleigrid on the 2.8 C and agree with you relative to a comparison
with the maxwell, but feel the beattie is an improvement over the
rolleigrid both in terms of brightness and ease of focus. The beattie
snaps into focus for me; the maxwell does not...
Eric Goldstein
Post by S***@aol.com
Having disturbed the list with my earlier email in search of a Rolleigrid, I
thought I should provide an update. I found my old Rolleigrid yesterday and
installed it in my 2.8C. Now, I also have a Maxwell screen in my 3.5E, so,
at last, I am able to compare the two side-by-side.
My initial impressions give the nod to the Rolleigrid. It is not quite as
bright as the Maxwell screen, but it is plenty bright to compose with, all
the way out to the corners. To my surprise, I found it a bit easier to
focus the 2.8C with the Rolleigrid, compared to focusing the 3.5E with the
Maxwell screen. I do not mean to speak unkindly of the Maxwell screen -- I
have used it for many years in my 3.5E and think highly of it, and I use a
Maxwell screen in my view camera. But at first glance I do prefer the
Rolleigrid.
Sanders McNew
www.mcnew.net
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S***@aol.com
2006-06-06 20:07:56 UTC
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Eric, I think I remember you (or someone) saying that the Beattie screens
were much cheaper than the Maxwells. How do they differ? Do you know if the
Beattie screens are available for large format cameras? I need a new screen
for my 5x7 Norma.

Sanders
Post by Eric Goldstein
This is why I prefer the beattie screen over the Maxwell. I have used
a rolleigrid on the 2.8 C and agree with you relative to a comparison
with the maxwell, but feel the beattie is an improvement over the
rolleigrid both in terms of brightness and ease of focus. The beattie
snaps into focus for me; the maxwell does not...
Nick Roberts
2006-06-06 20:14:58 UTC
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Beatties are certainly available in some LF sizes.
I'm a happy Beattie user (well, Maxwells aren't easy
to come by over here!) and wouldn't swap the Beattie
for anything - but the Rolleigrid isn't that bad.

Nick
Post by S***@aol.com
Eric, I think I remember you (or someone) saying
that the Beattie screens
were much cheaper than the Maxwells. How do they
differ? Do you know if the
Beattie screens are available for large format
cameras? I need a new screen
for my 5x7 Norma.
Sanders
In a message dated 6/6/06 4:01:30 PM,
Post by Eric Goldstein
This is why I prefer the beattie screen over the
Maxwell. I have used
Post by Eric Goldstein
a rolleigrid on the 2.8 C and agree with you
relative to a comparison
Post by Eric Goldstein
with the maxwell, but feel the beattie is an
improvement over the
Post by Eric Goldstein
rolleigrid both in terms of brightness and ease of
focus. The beattie
Post by Eric Goldstein
snaps into focus for me; the maxwell does not...
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Eric Goldstein
2006-06-06 20:35:22 UTC
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Sanders -

My beattie was inexpensive because it was purchased used. New, I
suspect the costs for Beattie and Maxwell are roughly comparable but
cannot say for sure. The Beatties have been around for a long time and
are pretty ubiquitus; I suspect it is more likely you could find a
used Beattie than a used Maxwell...


Eric Goldstein
Post by S***@aol.com
Eric, I think I remember you (or someone) saying that the Beattie screens
were much cheaper than the Maxwells. How do they differ? Do you know if
the Beattie screens are available for large format cameras? I need a new
screen for my 5x7 Norma.
Sanders
This is why I prefer the beattie screen over the Maxwell. I have used
a rolleigrid on the 2.8 C and agree with you relative to a comparison
with the maxwell, but feel the beattie is an improvement over the
rolleigrid both in terms of brightness and ease of focus. The beattie
snaps into focus for me; the maxwell does not...
Richard Sintchak
2006-06-06 21:45:50 UTC
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My recent research for a new screen for my Rolleiflexes (a 2.8E Planar
and SL66) had me find that the Bettie screens were more expensive than
the Maxwells.

Richard S.
Post by S***@aol.com
Eric, I think I remember you (or someone) saying that the Beattie screens
were much cheaper than the Maxwells. >
Sanders
Craig Roberts
2006-06-06 22:03:50 UTC
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Post by Richard Sintchak
My recent research for a new screen for my Rolleiflexes (a 2.8E Planar
and SL66) had me find that the Bettie screens were more expensive than
the Maxwells.
On the other hand -- they are both square.

Craig
Washington, DC
Eric Goldstein
2006-06-06 22:12:14 UTC
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Actually, they're not!

http://www.intenscreen.com/products_medium-format_rolleiflex.htm


Eric Goldstein
Post by Craig Roberts
On the other hand -- they are both square.
Craig
Washington, DC
Don Williams
2006-06-07 20:11:02 UTC
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Post by Eric Goldstein
Actually, they're not!
http://www.intenscreen.com/products_medium-format_rolleiflex.htm
Eric Goldstein
Aren't then extended to allow for the parallex correction frames?



Don Williams
La Jolla, CA
Eric Goldstein
2006-06-07 20:37:46 UTC
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A reasonable deduction Don but given that the removeable and fixed
hood camera screens have significantly different dimensions, there may
be more to it than this. Todd Belcher would likely know...


Eric Goldstein
Post by Eric Goldstein
Actually, they're not!
http://www.intenscreen.com/products_medium-format_rolleiflex.htm
Eric Goldstein
Aren't then extended to allow for the parallex correction frames?
Don Williams
La Jolla, CA
Marc James Small
2006-06-07 23:07:20 UTC
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Post by Eric Goldstein
A reasonable deduction Don but given that the removeable and fixed
hood camera screens have significantly different dimensions, there may
be more to it than this. Todd Belcher would likely know...
Eric

Todd has all of the F&H/Rollei tech manuals at his command. He knows the
dimensions, and your comment was a bit snippish. I am surprised at this.

Marc

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Jim Brick
2006-06-06 20:22:36 UTC
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I use the great Acute Matt in my Hasselblads, Maxwell in my Rolleis,
and a Boss screen in my LF. Love'em all!

Jim
Post by S***@aol.com
Having disturbed the list with my earlier email in search of a
Rolleigrid, I thought I should provide an update. I found my old
Rolleigrid yesterday and installed it in my 2.8C. Now, I also have
a Maxwell screen in my 3.5E, so, at last, I am able to compare the
two side-by-side.
My initial impressions give the nod to the Rolleigrid. It is not
quite as bright as the Maxwell screen, but it is plenty bright to
compose with, all the way out to the corners. To my surprise, I
found it a bit easier to focus the 2.8C with the Rolleigrid,
compared to focusing the 3.5E with the Maxwell screen. I do not
mean to speak unkindly of the Maxwell screen -- I have used it for
many years in my 3.5E and think highly of it, and I use a Maxwell
screen in my view camera. But at first glance I do prefer the Rolleigrid.
Sanders McNew
www.mcnew.net
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