Discussion:
Rolleiflex 2.8 TLR
Marc James Small
2014-03-17 13:25:11 UTC
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Think 2.8A if you wish, though, when it was in
production, it was simply the Rolleiflex 2.8.

After twenty years of effort, I finally obtained
one of these. This is the original 1949 model
(Prochnow 155, though he tried to contend
originally that all of these cameras came with a
Zeiss-Opton Tessar, where the original 2.8 came
with a Prewar CZJ Tessar which had been coated
long after its manufature. Mine is in grand
condition save for the viewing system: the
mirror needs resilvered and the hood needs
de-buggered, though it is complete and entire. I
will contact Harry to see if he wishes to climb this particular mountain.

Body s/n: 1101379
Viewing lens: 2.8/8cm Hiedosmat-Anastigmat 818878
Taking lens: 2.8/8cm CZJ Tessar T 2310997
Shutter: Compur-Rapid, B, 1 second to 1/400 second, number not visible

I swapped a rather decent Leica IIIf RDST with
1.5/5cm Summarit for this. Rarity never
determines value, of course, but, at the final
light of day, Franke & Heidecke made 7870 of the
original 2.8 while Leitz made more than 70,000 IIIf's.

I am as happy as a tortoise with a fresh bale of kale.

Marc




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CarlosMFreaza
2014-03-17 17:32:19 UTC
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Congratulations for your camera, Marc. It's an interesting version; a
body made in 1949/50 and provided with a Tessar 2.8/80 at least 10
years older than the body. The lens is part of the batch F&H received
from CZ in 1939 for the Rolleiflex 2.8 they couldn't manufacture due
to the war. In the Prochnows' Rollei Report II second and third
editions this model with the Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar is registered as
PR 155/1.

Carlos
Think 2.8A if you wish, though, when it was in production, it was simply the
Rolleiflex 2.8.
After twenty years of effort, I finally obtained one of these. This is the
original 1949 model (Prochnow 155, though he tried to contend originally
that all of these cameras came with a Zeiss-Opton Tessar, where the original
2.8 came with a Prewar CZJ Tessar which had been coated long after its
manufature. Mine is in grand condition save for the viewing system: the
mirror needs resilvered and the hood needs de-buggered, though it is
complete and entire. I will contact Harry to see if he wishes to climb this
particular mountain.
Body s/n: 1101379
Viewing lens: 2.8/8cm Hiedosmat-Anastigmat 818878
Taking lens: 2.8/8cm CZJ Tessar T 2310997
Shutter: Compur-Rapid, B, 1 second to 1/400 second, number not visible
I swapped a rather decent Leica IIIf RDST with 1.5/5cm Summarit for this.
Rarity never determines value, of course, but, at the final light of day,
Franke & Heidecke made 7870 of the original 2.8 while Leitz made more than
70,000 IIIf's.
I am as happy as a tortoise with a fresh bale of kale.
Marc
Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
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CarlosMFreaza
2014-03-18 09:08:51 UTC
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2014-03-17 14:32 GMT-03:00 CarlosMFreaza <***@gmail.com>:
.... In the Prochnows' Rollei Report II second and third
Post by CarlosMFreaza
editions this model with the Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar is registered as
PR 155/1.
I'd like to correct the info above. Rolleiflex 2.8 A (K7 A) with Carl
Zeiss Jena 2.8/80 lens, PR 155. The same camera with Zeiss Opton
Tessar 2.8/80 lens, PR 155/1.

Carlos
Chris Burck
2014-03-17 21:47:55 UTC
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Well done, Marc. Congratulations to you.
Think 2.8A if you wish, though, when it was in production, it was simply
the Rolleiflex 2.8.
After twenty years of effort, I finally obtained one of these. This is
the original 1949 model (Prochnow 155, though he tried to contend
originally that all of these cameras came with a Zeiss-Opton Tessar, where
the original 2.8 came with a Prewar CZJ Tessar which had been coated long
after its manufature. Mine is in grand condition save for the viewing
system: the mirror needs resilvered and the hood needs de-buggered, though
it is complete and entire. I will contact Harry to see if he wishes to
climb this particular mountain.
Body s/n: 1101379
Viewing lens: 2.8/8cm Hiedosmat-Anastigmat 818878
Taking lens: 2.8/8cm CZJ Tessar T 2310997
Shutter: Compur-Rapid, B, 1 second to 1/400 second, number not visible
I swapped a rather decent Leica IIIf RDST with 1.5/5cm Summarit for this.
Rarity never determines value, of course, but, at the final light of day,
Franke & Heidecke made 7870 of the original 2.8 while Leitz made more than
70,000 IIIf's.
I am as happy as a tortoise with a fresh bale of kale.
Marc
Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
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Jan Decher
2014-03-18 18:49:06 UTC
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Two questions related to this:

Is this 2.8/80mm Tessar the same as the one used in the 6x6 Super Ikonta BX (Synchro Compur)?

Is the Tessar used in the last version(s) of the Rolleiflex T the recomputed one used in the Contaflex Super B?

Would love to see some pictures taken with the 2.8/80mm Rollei Tessar .

Jan
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:32:19 -0300
Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rolleiflex 2.8 TLR
Congratulations for your camera, Marc. It's an interesting version; a
body made in 1949/50 and provided with a Tessar 2.8/80 at least 10
years older than the body. The lens is part of the batch F&H received
from CZ in 1939 for the Rolleiflex 2.8 they couldn't manufacture due
to the war. In the Prochnows' Rollei Report II second and third
editions this model with the Carl Zeiss Jena Tessar is registered as
PR 155/1.
Carlos
Marc James Small
2014-03-19 03:52:17 UTC
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Post by Jan Decher
Is this 2.8/80mm Tessar the same as the one used
in the 6x6 Super Ikonta BX (Synchro Compur)?
Is the Tessar used in the last version(s) of the
Rolleiflex T the recomputed one used in the Contaflex Super B?
The recomputed Tessar was a product of the
1950's. This lens dates from 1939. It is a
unit-focusing lens and not the front-cell
focusing one used on the Super Ikonta B's. It
is identical to the lens used on the Zeiss Ikon Ikoflex III.

Marc



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Marc James Small
2014-03-19 15:38:47 UTC
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Rolleifolks,

I had noted that the lens hood was buggered. I
will be shipping it off to Harry Fleenor for his
ministrations when the Good Lord stirs my soul to
find a box into which I may place the camera for
mailing. I COULD take pictures with it right
now, as the 'Lower 48' of the camera seems to be
working well. But, well, let us wait for a span
while Harry works his customary magic.

The 2.8 uses a somewhat canted Bayo II
mount. This camera came with the proper lens cap
and the proper lens hood and also with an
Ednalite 659 Series VI adapter and hood, so
filters are not an issue, as I am awash in Serie
VI filters of all sorts and conditions. Once
Harry has done his magic, I might be persuaded to
do a shoot-off with the 2.8 and my 2.8F and G
and a Super Ikonta B. Same film, same subject,
shot wide open. The trouble is that I have to
use color film. I believe that chrome emulsions
are still available. So, I might go that
way. You folks will see no difference, given the
rather low resolution of computer screens. Now,
if I still had a darkroom and could do some
Ilfochrome work, I'd show you the difference. In
terms of resolution, saturation, and balance, I
would suggest that it would end up as, from less
to more, the Super Ikonta B, the Rolleiflex
2.8, the 2.8F, and then the 2.8G. All of these
are worthy cameras and it is important to recall
that the purpose of the mission is to capture a
decent image and not to capture the perfect image.

But, first, let me find a box and get the camera
off to Mister Fleenor for his ministrations on the hood.

Marc



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